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		<title>By: Pollywogs! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The future is so bright&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Pollywogs! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The future is so bright&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/#comment-315  I can&#8217;t help but think that it is an unstable system doomed to some type of collapse to a more stable state. People can&#8217;t continue reproducing ad infinitum, can&#8217;t continue consuming resources ad nauseum, can&#8217;t continue on the track we are currently taking without everything hitting a way. The closer we get, the more people close their eyes and hum, because there is simply a limit to everything. The industrial revolution brought about an amazing change, but unless a brand new technological revolution comes about quickly that completely changes the paradigm, a collapse is inevitable. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/#comment-315" rel="nofollow">http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/#comment-315</a>  I can&rsquo;t help but think that it is an unstable system doomed to some type of collapse to a more stable state. People can&rsquo;t continue reproducing ad infinitum, can&rsquo;t continue consuming resources ad nauseum, can&rsquo;t continue on the track we are currently taking without everything hitting a way. The closer we get, the more people close their eyes and hum, because there is simply a limit to everything. The industrial revolution brought about an amazing change, but unless a brand new technological revolution comes about quickly that completely changes the paradigm, a collapse is inevitable. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/comment-page-1/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but think that it is an unstable system doomed to some type of collapse to a more stable state.  People can&#039;t continue reproducing ad infinitum, can&#039;t continue consuming resources ad nauseum, can&#039;t continue on the track we are currently taking without everything hitting a way.  The closer we get, the more people close their eyes and hum, because there is simply a limit to everything.  The industrial revolution brought about an amazing change, but unless a brand new technological revolution comes about quickly that completely changes the paradigm, a collapse is inevitable.

I&#039;m hoping for unlimited free energy, myself.  Something that will allow for a near complete reduction in the massive pollution caused by current energy production systems.  Hopefully it will have the added benefit of reducing stress and competition between groups of people, lower poverty and hunger, and in general increase the base living condition for all people...

The problem with something like that is you have to sneak it out from the powers that be.  How do you monetize something that needs to be free and equally available to the poorest person in the most abject nation?  You don&#039;t...and that is going to be a hard sell to todays multinational corporations.  They&#039;d much rather ride this into the ground, milking it as they can.  They see the writing on the wall, but how do you change horses when your stockholders are expecting your horse to win day after day with ever increasing profits, market share and stock value?  How are you supposed to say &#039;what we&#039;ve been doing is bad for the planet, bad for the future, here is what we are going to do, it will cost our company $5 billion over the next twenty years and have no positive impact on our profits, it will simply be good for the planet&#039;?  Exxon is going to do that?  When they take tax subsidies (a tax burden on those millions who make minimum wage to $40,000 a year and pay their taxes like good citizens should) from our government during record profits?

I don&#039;t have much hope.  I have some hope, but it is a realistic hope.  The future won&#039;t look like today.  No one cares (or, no one cares enough to actually do anything).  It won&#039;t be &quot;Nature&#039;s End&quot;, perhaps, but if we are lucky it won&#039;t be entirely a uniform, bland, enormous farm/factory feeding the mouths and megastores of a population gigantically ballooned...


If we are lucky a common mans revolution will have brought limitless, clean energy into the hands of every man, woman and child on Earth, removing one of the greatest contentions in existence today.  The reduced strain on resources and the reduced output of pollution will allow people to realize they can re-prioritize while there is still something to conserve...

If we are not lucky, corporations will continue to rule the day, money will continue to be the end-all be-all of existence, and the entire world will be turned into the sterile, highly productive factory which ensures the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

...or, if we are really not lucky, the shit will hit the fan, huge chunks of the economy will go belly up, countries will go bankrupt, governments will scramble for power and/or collapse, military coups will break out worldwide, nuclear war will eventually unfold with some crazed dictator in some crazed Balkan republic in some crazed corner of Iowa, and a terrible thousand years of pain, suffering and despoiling of anything beautiful will be the legacy of our times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that it is an unstable system doomed to some type of collapse to a more stable state.  People can&#8217;t continue reproducing ad infinitum, can&#8217;t continue consuming resources ad nauseum, can&#8217;t continue on the track we are currently taking without everything hitting a way.  The closer we get, the more people close their eyes and hum, because there is simply a limit to everything.  The industrial revolution brought about an amazing change, but unless a brand new technological revolution comes about quickly that completely changes the paradigm, a collapse is inevitable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping for unlimited free energy, myself.  Something that will allow for a near complete reduction in the massive pollution caused by current energy production systems.  Hopefully it will have the added benefit of reducing stress and competition between groups of people, lower poverty and hunger, and in general increase the base living condition for all people&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem with something like that is you have to sneak it out from the powers that be.  How do you monetize something that needs to be free and equally available to the poorest person in the most abject nation?  You don&#8217;t&#8230;and that is going to be a hard sell to todays multinational corporations.  They&#8217;d much rather ride this into the ground, milking it as they can.  They see the writing on the wall, but how do you change horses when your stockholders are expecting your horse to win day after day with ever increasing profits, market share and stock value?  How are you supposed to say &#8216;what we&#8217;ve been doing is bad for the planet, bad for the future, here is what we are going to do, it will cost our company $5 billion over the next twenty years and have no positive impact on our profits, it will simply be good for the planet&#8217;?  Exxon is going to do that?  When they take tax subsidies (a tax burden on those millions who make minimum wage to $40,000 a year and pay their taxes like good citizens should) from our government during record profits?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have much hope.  I have some hope, but it is a realistic hope.  The future won&#8217;t look like today.  No one cares (or, no one cares enough to actually do anything).  It won&#8217;t be &#8220;Nature&#8217;s End&#8221;, perhaps, but if we are lucky it won&#8217;t be entirely a uniform, bland, enormous farm/factory feeding the mouths and megastores of a population gigantically ballooned&#8230;</p>
<p>If we are lucky a common mans revolution will have brought limitless, clean energy into the hands of every man, woman and child on Earth, removing one of the greatest contentions in existence today.  The reduced strain on resources and the reduced output of pollution will allow people to realize they can re-prioritize while there is still something to conserve&#8230;</p>
<p>If we are not lucky, corporations will continue to rule the day, money will continue to be the end-all be-all of existence, and the entire world will be turned into the sterile, highly productive factory which ensures the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.</p>
<p>&#8230;or, if we are really not lucky, the shit will hit the fan, huge chunks of the economy will go belly up, countries will go bankrupt, governments will scramble for power and/or collapse, military coups will break out worldwide, nuclear war will eventually unfold with some crazed dictator in some crazed Balkan republic in some crazed corner of Iowa, and a terrible thousand years of pain, suffering and despoiling of anything beautiful will be the legacy of our times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ksocling</title>
		<link>http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>ksocling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong!

No no no, you can&#039;t have that attitude.  YOU can make a difference...even if it is a very small difference, it&#039;s still something and it brings about a good feeling knowing that you are at least trying.

I think WAY WAY too many people feel the same way as you but the thing is...if all those people would turn their attitudes around and decide that their contribution IS needed, their action WILL make a difference, the result would be tremendous....tremendous with a capital fucking &quot;T&quot;.

Seriously!  There should not be a &quot;fuck it&quot; option when you consider what impact your actions may have on future generations.  Do what you can, continue recycling and look for other ways you may be able to make a difference...make less trips into town or to the store, recycle your junk mail (yes, that&#039;s right, junk mail does recycle), use biodegradable cleaners, don&#039;t use one-time use items such as paper/plastic plates.  Anyway, these are just a few easy things, for more tips check out these sites: 

http://idealbite.com/index.php
http://www.care2.com/healthyliving/
http://www.greenpeace.org/canada/en/take-action/greentips


Your children, grandchildren &amp; future great-grandchildren will appreciate your efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong!</p>
<p>No no no, you can&#8217;t have that attitude.  YOU can make a difference&#8230;even if it is a very small difference, it&#8217;s still something and it brings about a good feeling knowing that you are at least trying.</p>
<p>I think WAY WAY too many people feel the same way as you but the thing is&#8230;if all those people would turn their attitudes around and decide that their contribution IS needed, their action WILL make a difference, the result would be tremendous&#8230;.tremendous with a capital fucking &#8220;T&#8221;.</p>
<p>Seriously!  There should not be a &#8220;fuck it&#8221; option when you consider what impact your actions may have on future generations.  Do what you can, continue recycling and look for other ways you may be able to make a difference&#8230;make less trips into town or to the store, recycle your junk mail (yes, that&#8217;s right, junk mail does recycle), use biodegradable cleaners, don&#8217;t use one-time use items such as paper/plastic plates.  Anyway, these are just a few easy things, for more tips check out these sites: </p>
<p><a href="http://idealbite.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://idealbite.com/index.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.care2.com/healthyliving/" rel="nofollow">http://www.care2.com/healthyliving/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.greenpeace.org/canada/en/take-action/greentips" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenpeace.org/canada/en/take-action/greentips</a></p>
<p>Your children, grandchildren &amp; future great-grandchildren will appreciate your efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: gwennie</title>
		<link>http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/comment-page-1/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>gwennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems hopeless to me.  I recycle and all, but I don&#039;t feel that it&#039;s going to make enough of a difference.  The world is just going to keep getting more and more populated and we are going to need more and more resources.  I&#039;m about at the &quot;fuck it&quot; stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems hopeless to me.  I recycle and all, but I don&#8217;t feel that it&#8217;s going to make enough of a difference.  The world is just going to keep getting more and more populated and we are going to need more and more resources.  I&#8217;m about at the &#8220;fuck it&#8221; stage.</p>
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		<title>By: ksocling</title>
		<link>http://www.garrettsocling.com/2006/11/17/dumbfuckistan/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>ksocling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how anyone could disagree with any of those values, especially those who have brought children into this world...you (and I mean &quot;you&quot; in a very general sense) should be most concerned about the future.  After all it will be your children who will have to live with the consequences of our (general again) self-absorbed, ego-centric actions.

If there is going to be a future for your children and your children&#039;s children....we all need to start assessing our actions, make responsible choices, put our wants &amp; &quot;needs&quot; aside and actually start thinking about those future children&#039;s needs, their basic needs such as clean air, clean water, food, etc. 

We all need to start being more responsible...use less, recycle more...make better choices for the sake of the future, the children of the future.

Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.

Peace out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how anyone could disagree with any of those values, especially those who have brought children into this world&#8230;you (and I mean &#8220;you&#8221; in a very general sense) should be most concerned about the future.  After all it will be your children who will have to live with the consequences of our (general again) self-absorbed, ego-centric actions.</p>
<p>If there is going to be a future for your children and your children&#8217;s children&#8230;.we all need to start assessing our actions, make responsible choices, put our wants &amp; &#8220;needs&#8221; aside and actually start thinking about those future children&#8217;s needs, their basic needs such as clean air, clean water, food, etc. </p>
<p>We all need to start being more responsible&#8230;use less, recycle more&#8230;make better choices for the sake of the future, the children of the future.</p>
<p>Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.</p>
<p>Peace out.</p>
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